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pleasepassthepork |
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nope
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YurassRedux |
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That was pretty hardcore especially for TV! Blowing away a kid!?
I thought that epi was the worst one of the season, so that last season came out of nowhere!! |
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Malnathor |
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The end would have had more impact if I believed that shooting little Ben would make any difference. Aside from that, I agree that it was shocking for TV. I
wonder if the producers had to fight with the network to get that scene included.
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YurassRedux |
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It has to make some difference otherwise I don't think they would have done such a shocking scene. Maybe the purge won't happen now??
I'm sure some conservative TV group is going to bitch about it. |
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chelle65 |
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I was wondering if it happened to get Adult Ben back to the 70 tim period. I'm guessing that you younger and older self could not be in the same time period. |
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dialed in |
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I was thinking the same thing as Mal when it happened.
"That bug-eyed little bastard won't die" It just goes against everything they have written so far. Maybe this will just make him a bit more evil when he gets older. |
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pleasepassthepork |
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Ben isn't dead. He will be rescued and healed by someone.
The question is . . . does old Ben remember meeting the O6 in his youth? Does he remember being shot by Sayid? Did these events form him into the evilness he grew to be? |
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Malnathor |
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Yes. Because as that pencil neck geek explained, time is fixed. They are merely sliding back and forth on a string. So, everything that has happened in the
past, has already happened. Like when he explained to Sawyer that banging on the hatch to talk to Desmond was futile, because Desmond only met Sawyer for the
first time when Oceanic crashed onto the island. If it didn't happen in the past the first time, it can't happen now. So Ben most certainly remembers
meeting them as a child, he remembers Sayid shooting him, and probably even governed the actions he took as an adult.
-Mal |
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Malnathor |
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Yurass, the purge WILL happen, because it DID happen. This is not alter-your-past time travel (like Back to the Future), this is fixed constant time travel,
nothing can be altered.
eta: this is, of course, assuming Faraday is correct in his assumptions about time travel... -Mal |
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humperdinck |
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Agreeance with Mal. The fixed timeline actually makes it more interesting than an alter-your-past version. Lost has always been about characters' pasts and
the events and experiences that made them who they are. The stuff with young Ben is awesome in that regard. He's known these core characters (Sayid,
LaFleur/Sawyer, Juliet, Kate, Jack, Hurley) since his childhood, kept tabs on them throughout their lives (with the help of Richard), and when they finally
dropped out of the sky many years later, he was ready for them. Their fates have been entwined for 30 years.
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pleasepassthepork |
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And that would explain the list(s) of the survivors and why Ben wasn't all that surprised when the plane crashed. |
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YurassRedux |
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I need some Anacin
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Sarawaraclara |
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OK...but Sayid would presumably not have shot young Ben if not for his prior experiences with adult Ben and his band of Others when they first crashed on the
island. So it still doesn't really make sense.
You say I'm a bitch like it's a bad thing...
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jane1958 |
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Think of it this way: What we're watching is just one huge flashback. It's all backstory to the current show. Everything has to jive with what we know
in the future. Ben can't die because Ben isn't dead later on; but he can get shot and survive because, frankly, why not?
Episode 511- "Whatever Happened, Happened" Episode 512 - "Dead is Dead" Episode 513-"Some Like It Hoth"
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pleasepassthepork |
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It's a huge circle of time!
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Malnathor |
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OK...but Sayid would presumably not have shot young Ben if not for his prior experiences with adult Ben and his band of Others when they first crashed on the island. So it still doesn't really make sense. As PPTP said it's a circle. It's impossible to really comprehend because our concept of time is strictly linear. -Mal |
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YurassRedux |
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Where's Dr. Manhattan when you need him
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Malnathor |
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He's shagging some jailbait with 3 of his blue cocks...
-Mal |
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Green Package Man |
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I told you Sayid rocked. Shooting young Ben was an awesome surprise. Something really great to talk about.
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sirjonsnow |
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Chelle, your younger/older self can ABSOLUTELY be in the same time period - somewhere off Island there are child versions of all the characters in '77
(well, those 30+ )
I ask you to kill Superman, and you're telling me you couldn't even do that one, simple thing. |
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